The Flagship is back as Brian, Steve and Michael first get into a heated discussion about our college teams and Steve finally pays up on a bet. Then the guys talk about some promotions within the WWE which are leading to the impending launch of the WWE Network, how exactly the network could work and the many possibilities, Triple H now in charge of the creative team along with Vince McMahon, the WWE TLC 2013 pay-per-view which is less than two weeks away, their disappointment in WWE storylines and if they see that changing anytime soon, the Slammys coming to Raw on Monday and also the possibility of TNA Wrestling original AJ Styles leaving the company.
The last time we saw an undisputed WWE champion was Brock Lesnar after he defeated The Rock at Summerslam 2002 to win the title. Right after that event, due to the brand extension the WWE created the World Heavyweight Championship.
The WWE announced on Monday Night Raw this past week that WWE Champion Randy Orton will battle World Heavyweight Champion John Cena in a title vs title match at the TLC pay-per-view on December 15th. As soon as the match was made, people on social media and various wrestling websites were saying the WWE wasn’t stating this was a unification match and there would be a way Orton and Cena would each walk out with a title.
WWE released their weekly Michael Cole and Triple H video interview today. HHH stated that the goal of the match was to have one unified champion coming out of the match and heading into 2014.
Let’s go with what HHH is hoping for and having one unified champion at the end of the TLC event. The question is though, are John Cena and Randy Orton the right guys to have a match to determine this?
A John Cena-Randy Orton unification match in 2008 would have been a dream matchup as they were the two hottest and most over acts in the WWE. Going into ’08, Orton was on a roll as the WWE Champion and Cena made a grand return at the end of the month from a torn pectoral muscle at the Royal Rumble. Orton defeated Jeff Hardy in a very good match and Cena ended up winning the Rumble. Instead of having the match at WrestleMania 24, the match took place at the No Way Out event in February. Cena won the match by disqualification. A triple threat match involving Orton, Cena and HHH took place at WrestleMania 24 with Orton retaining.
Now fast forward to 2013 and both Cena and Orton are champions and no one really cares. Orton comes out to the ring and you could hear a pin drop. When he cuts a promo, you get the same reaction. Cena comes out, gets a moderate reaction, but when he starts talking, the fans don’t buy what he’s saying in a promo and start chanting “boring, boring”.
You watch the opening segment on Raw this past Monday when Orton, HHH and Stephanie are in the ring and the fans are chanting for Daniel Bryan and chanting “YES YES”. Cena came out and at least acknowledged the reaction and that’s what the fans want. But right after Cena did that, he went back to discussing why there should be one unified champion, with the match being made right after that. Fans in the arena weren’t very interested when the announcement was made.
About 90 minutes into the show, CM Punk and Daniel Bryan came out for an interview with Renee Young before their match with The Wyatt Family. Both guys by far got the two best reactions of the night. But that has been the case for most of 2013.
Punk started out the year as a heel and then when he came back in June at the Payback pay-per-view, he turned back to a babyface role facing Chris Jericho. Punk then started a feud with Paul Heyman at the Money In The Bank pay-per-view when Heyman cost him a chance to win the MITB briefcase. Punk faced Brock Lesnar at Summerslam and has had a feud with Heyman through the Hell In A Cell pay-per-view.
Bryan has been the hottest act in the WWE in 2013. The Washington state native started out the year stuck in a tag team with Kane and then got back into singles starting at the MITB. Bryan then headlined Summerslam winning the WWe championship from John Cena, but after the match HHH pedigreed Bryan, with Orton cashing in his MITB and winning the title at the Hell In A Cell event.
Bryan and Punk teamed at Survivor Series on Sunday and defeated Erick Rowan and Luke Harper. It looks like after Raw on Monday that Bryan will face Brey Wyatt and Punk will be facing Roman Reigns.
Those matches are fine, but do nothing in the grand scheme of things for Bryan and Punk.
The WWE has always gone by the mantra of saying that they listen to the fans and they give the fans what they want. In this instance this isn’t the case whatsoever. You have the two hottest acts in all of wrestling feuding with guys who we aren’t sure are going to even reach a main event level.
The time we should see a unification match should be at Wrestlemania 30 with CM Punk and Daniel Bryan battling out to see who is the best wrestler in the world and the right to be called undisputed champion. Lets give the fans what they really want to see because at the end of the day, it is all about the fans.
This week’s version of WWE Monday Night Raw was widely panned across social media and various platforms. The rating is in and the fans were interested for most of the show as Raw did a 2.93 rating with an average of 4.14 million viewers. That is up from last week’s 2.73 rating with an average of 3.80 million viewers.
Hour one averaged 4.32 million viewers, which was highlighted by the opening segment featuring Triple H, Stephanie McMahon, Randy Orton and John Cena, with the title vs title match being made with Orton and Cena for the TLC pay-per-view on December 15th. Hour two averaged 4.29 million viewers and was highlighted by CM Punk and Daniel Bryan vs The Wyatt Family, which started in the middle of the hour and went into the third and final hour.
The final hour averaged 3.80 million viewers and was highlighted by the main event featuring Big Show and John Cena vs Alberto Del Rio and Randy Orton. That has to be a cause of concern for the WWE as the fans were interested in the first two hours and slid to under four million viewers in the final hour.
Before the Smackdown tapings take place, the WWE films “Main Event” that will air on ION Television tonight starting at 8 p.m. ET. The tapings took place in Uncasville, Connecticut. Here is what took place on WWE Main Event.
- Alberto Del Rio beat Dolph Ziggler. Del Rio won with the Cross Arm Breaker. Awesome match. They really went all out and the crowd was into it the whole time. This was better than their two pay-per-view matches earlier this year.
- Damien Sandow beat Santino Marella. Sandow won with his You’re Welcome finisher. Pretty much a squash. Sandow cut a promo before the match insulting the crowd and calling himself “still the uncrowned world champion.” He demanded better opponents.
- Triple H cut a promo on the screen saying he wants the titles to be unified at TLC. He wants only one WWE champion. So I guess they are guaranteeing one champion at TLC? I can’t see the Titantron from my seat so I might not have gotten the full context of the promo.
- Kofi Kingston beat Fandango (w/Summer Rae). Kingston won with Trouble in Paradise. Fundamentally solid, but the crowd had no reason to get invested in either man, although the kids got into at the end. No follow up on Sunday’s actions from Kofi.
Results were courtesy of ProWrestling.net.
Brian and Steve talk WWE Raw from Monday night which was another lackluster show, Michael Strahan handing out hip tosses to The Miz and Titus O’Neil, the Survivor Series rematch of the Divas elimination match, the upcoming match between John Cena and Randy Orton at the TLC pay-per-view and if it will be a unification match, other possible matches on that show, what has happened in the WWE since the summer, Jake Roberts dream of buying TNA and more.
It was announced on WWE Monday Night Raw that WWE Champion Randy Orton will battle World Heavyweight Champion John Cena in the main event of the TLC pay-per-view in a tables, ladders and chairs title vs title match.
The match was made at the beginning of Raw when Orton, Triple H and Stephanie McMahon were in the ring. Orton stated that he was the face of the WWE and the biggest star in the history of the company. Cena then came out and stated that he believes there should be one world champion and wanted to face Orton in a unification bout.
McMahon said that her and HHH have been discussing something like this for awhile and Orton got hot thinking Cena and The Authority were cohoots. HHH then announced the match for the TLC event.
TLC takes place on Sunday, December 15th from the Toyota Center in Houston, Texas.
After the main event of Survivor Series in which Randy Orton defeated Big Show to retain the WWE championship, WWE chairman Vince McMahon returned. After the event had ended, World Heavyweight Champion John Cena was trying to goat Orton to come into the ring, but was held back by Triple H. Kane tried to enter on a few occasions, but HHH held him back. At one point Kane choked HHH, but Orton talked him into not doing it.
HHH then charged the ring and McMahon came out and held him back. McMahon then charged the ring and HHH and Stephanie MacMahon held him back. Finally Stephanie charged the ring with HHH and Vince holding her back.
Vince ready to take on Cena pic.twitter.com/t5OdobOBHe
— WCW (@WCWToday) November 25, 2013
In one of the least anticipated WWE pay-per-view main events in a long time, Randy Orton defeated Big Show in the main event of Survivor Series tonight. The match started out slow as the fans were chanting “boring”, “Daniel Bryan”, “CM Punk” and “TNA”. The action started to pick up a bit when Orton had Show on the turnbuckle for his patented DDT. Orton seemed to go back too far, which caused Show’s body to collapse, which caused a chorus of boos inside the TD Garden Arena in Boston.
Out of nowhere, Show landed a chokeslam to which Orton kicked out. Show then got ready to do the WMD, but Orton slid out of the ring and Show followed him out. Show threw Orton into the ropes, which caused referee Charles Robinson to be knocked out. The challenger then tossed Orton into the crowd, where he gave Orton a chop to the chest. The champion then was able reverse the action and clotheslined Show on the barricade.
Show then recovered landed the WMD on Orton. Show then dragged Orton into the ring and then a moment later, Triple H’s music hit and he came out with Stephanie McMahon and Kane. That distracted Show, when Orton came out of nowhere and landed the RKO on Show. Orton then had Show setup and punted him in the head to score the pinfall to retain the WWE championship.
The match ended and The Authority was clapping and cheering Orton when World Heavyweight Champion John Cena approached the ring. Cena entered the ring and had a face to face confrontation with Orton. Both guys held up their respective titles, with Orton stared down Cena with a vengeance and Cena was smiling at Orton to end the pay-per-view.
David Shoemaker of Grantland.com talks about his new book “The Squared Circle: Life, Death and Professional Wrestling” (which you can get on Amazon.com), how the mainstream press looks at wrestling, changes in wrestling over the years, why the WWE is still so reliant on big guys, this weekend’s Survivor Series PPV, the future of the WWE, Triple H in his current role with the company and more.
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The new WWE Director of Operations Kane replaced Triple H this week in talking to Michael Cole for the weekly chat Cole conducts with the WWE COO.
Cole asked Kane where did the monster go and is the suit and tie a façade. Kane at first yelled and was stern at Cole. Then the former WWE and World heavyweight composed himself and gave a dignified answer.
“There’s a monster that’s deep inside all of us,” Kane stated. The difference is for 17 years, I chose to allow mine to run amuck, to promote chaos. But make no mistake, I was always in control unlike you (Michael Cole) and everyone else. I accept the beastial side of my nature, indeed I relish in it. It is simply one facet of my personality, a tool if you will, but no the only tool at my disposal. So when the opportunity arises, the monster will be utilized.”
Brian, Michael and Steve look back at Raw from Monday night including the feud between Triple H and The Big Show and a mini dressed as a bull trying to hump a woman on live TV(!), Rey Mysterio’s return,WWE reverting back to big guys on the top, TNA Wrestling’s latest ruse to fans, if the company is for sale or not and much more.
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The John Cena effect lasted all of one week for WWE Monday Night Raw ratings. The final rating for Raw was a 2.75 with an average of 3.89 million viewers. That is down from last week when the rating was a 2.98 with an average of 4.15 million viewers.
The wrestling world was giving Cena a lot of credit last week for the higher rating for Raw due to his return to the show, but this week’s show has been critically panned across the board.
The first hour averaged 4.069 million viewers, which the show kicked off with CM Punk facing Luke Harper with a Daniel Bryan save after the match. Hour two averaged 3.951 million viewers, which featured Randy Orton and Big E Langston and the start of John Cena, Cody Rhodes and Goldust facing The Real Americans and Damien Sandow. The final hour of the show dropped to an average of 3.643 million viewers, which featured the finish of the six-man tag match and the closing segment of Triple H, Stephanie McMahon, The Big Show, Randy Orton and The Shield.
Will the WWE panic as the show has considered one of the worst edition’s of Raw in 2013 or will they stay the course?
Brian and Steve recap WWE raw from Monday night including the legal issues between the Big Show and Triple H, holes in the main storyline, going back to the well, Dolph Ziggler being worth 12%, Kane owns a suit, a horny bull making some moves on Renee Young and more. Plus, they talk about the card so far for Survivor Series, the latest on Hulk Hogan, TNA being for sale or maybe not and what former champion is returning on the show this week.
It was announced last night on WWE Monday Night Raw that Randy Orton will defend the WWE title against Big Show at Survivor Series.
The match was made when Triple H and Stephanie McMahon came to the ring to meet Big Show to resolve the lawsuit that was filed by Show. The WWE Board of Directors had McMahon and Triple H to resolve and come to settlement with Big Show.
They gave Show his job back, but he wanted a title shot at Orton at Survivor Series and Triple H reluctantly gave him the opportunity.
Survivor Series takes on place on Sunday, November 24 from TD Garden in Boston, Massachusetts. The only other match confirmed for the event is John Cena defending the World Heavyweight Championship against Alberto Del Rio.
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